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Thread #150703   Message #3553671
Posted By: GUEST,Teribus
28-Aug-13 - 07:19 AM
Thread Name: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
Subject: RE: BS: Small hope for Israel/Palestine
To those who witter on about "Palestinian" Land - I would like them to show me what borders actually define this land.

As far as I am aware in 1947 the Jews of Palestine agreed to a two-state solution proposed by the UN. Unfortunately the Arabs of Palestine and their allies (For that read every Arab country in the world) refused to accept this solution and elected to fight. Borders were then temporarily defined not as per the 1947 proposal but by the ceasefire lines in 1949 (I say temporarily defined as there was never any peace treaty signed - and subsequent Arab actions showed that they most certainly did not recognise these borders as meaning anything)

The big turning point came in 1967 when the pan Arabic Movement led by Nasser attempted to wipe Israel literally from the face of the earth, and received the shock of their lives for their troubles as the IDF cleared the Egyptians from Gaza and the Sinai, the Jordanians from the West Bank and East Jerusalem and the Syrians from the Sheeba Farms and the Golan Heights. Up until this point all these heroic Arab nations had been holding "Palestinian" land obtained by conquest, which apparently most here see nothing wrong with. But in 1967 they lost not only that but significant chunks of their own territory - and they squealed like stuck pigs.

1973 came and went as the Arabs once more elected to go to war and the situation became worse so to get their own land back both Egypt and Jordan did deals on the basis of land for peace and got their own land back. The Arabs of Palestine have still not defined what they see as being "their borders" so how can it be possible for the Israelis to steal land? The Egyptians "stole" Gaza for the best part of twenty years and they would hold it still had it not been for Nasser's f**k-up in 1967 - same goes for Jordan with East Jerusalem and the West Bank. The Mandated Territory of Palestine that was defined in 1923 allows for free settlement anywhere in that territory for Jew and Arab alike, the Jews just happen to be better at it. The Arabs of Palestine have had over 66 years to make something of the situation they themselves elected to get themselves into and they have failed miserably - the failure being entirely self-generated.

There is I fear not the slightest hope for any settlement - so next time it kicks off then the world should just stand back and let one side or the other prevail and settle the matter in blood the way the Arabs of the region have always wanted to settle it. I know which side would prevail (It would not be the Arabs) - and the Arabs of Palestine know that as well so their "leaders" continue with the farce taking every opportunity to grandstand in international forums playing the victim whilst ripping their "people" off by channeling millions off aid packages thrown at the Palestinian leadership by the gullible - Yasser Arafat was a past-master at it.