Ron Shuttleworth sent the lyrics to me. Chris Sugden was not referenced Is this perhaps the real name of Kipper? sometimes you just have folk transference... I generally provide all that I have. Songs come to me in different ways. I am more concerned with the songs than their background. If I have it I include it if not then I toss it out here for more. That is the value of this forum. If you do not have all the information then it comes eventually.

Conrad