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Thread #152125   Message #3558504
Posted By: Stringsinger
12-Sep-13 - 05:40 PM
Thread Name: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
"There remains no other course for me than to turn the other cheek. Have at it gentlemen."

Who started this thread in the first place?

It was based on a theory also stated that atheists must have had some trauma in order to adopt an atheist position. That's an agenda.

It was stated that atheists insult the clergy by asserting their non-belief. A fight ensued and now it's "lets you and him fight". That's an agenda.

If the clergy is insulted, let them express their views on this thread. It would be instructive to discuss this with them.

"As you write (and I wrote before), non-belief does not have a coherent set of by-laws that would lend itself to conceptions or misconceptions, thus any such ideas would be fallacious right from the start."

But these ideas are being presented on this thread as if there were somehow a unified "militant atheist" position. That's an agenda.

"One cannot be a militant Atheists without someone to fight. What matters to them is not education of the public but the public fight. Mr. Dawkins uses public "debates" to sell his books."

This is patently untrue and the problem with this thread to begin with. Dawkins is impugned by someone for somehow just wanting to "sell his books". This is reflective of the reactionary stance of those "selling their religion" by posting threads that say that atheism is a religion, a false accusation and belies an agenda to discredit atheism.

Dawkins is vitally concerned with educating the public and the denigration of science by the smothering yoke of religion. I doubt he has made even a tenth of the money that has been made by the authors of the "Left Behind" series, Jerry Jenkins being one.

Christians are giving themselves a bad name by intolerance, violence and propaganda. Whenever atheism is attacked for whatever reason or for whatever rationale, it becomes a religious "cause celebre" through the issuance of threads that make a false claim replete with labels and name-calling.

When non-believers protest titles such as heading this thread, they are somehow smacked down as being too "militant". That term has a pejorative connotation and as I remember was used as a weapon against the Civil Rights Movement to discredit that.

You can't step on a toe and not expect the person attached to it to yell "ouch!"