The GUEST on 14 Sep 13 - 01:04 PM was I, as you may have guessed. I never call anyone a troll. If I were using that word for everybody with whom I sometimes disagree, it would be a synonym for human being (including myself).

Also, I generally do not wish to comment on the moral quality of posters. (Exceptions are possible, but it takes more for that than found in this thread.) Musket or anybody else, if you feel insulted, I solemnly apologize.

This is Stringsinger's thread, and he wanted a serious discussion (though he hoped to "win" it). The character of this forum implies that many posts are polemic or insincere; reasonable people cannot do any better than either ignore them or only discuss those aspects that are really interesting.

Posters can have a variety of attitudes at their disposal. Sometimes it is not immediately clear in which mode they are, that is why I thought my hint of 13 Sep 13 - 03:30 PM helpful. LH did not protest.