""BTW comparing the murder/gun murder rates in Canada to the U.S. is moronic at best. The population of NYC is probably greater than the entire country of Canada..(besides what U.S. citizen in their right mind gives a tinkers damn about what happens in Canada anyway)""

Even if one corrects for the population difference, (lets say Canada is roughly 10 percent of the population of the USA), the gun crime stats differences are still significant-Canada being much lower. Maybe it's guns, maybe it's the wacko users, or maybe it's just that some in the USA don't give a darn what happens in Canada and choose to remain misinformed of what happens elsewhere, or find it too crime free and dull and stay home in the US of A (thank you for some of that, US crime fellas) - who knows the entire reasons for the differences :)