Bill. People don't need to be steeped in philosophy to hold a general view and either embrace or dismiss a concept based on that view.

That is the thrust of many parallel threads at the moment.

As in... oh! You don't love the little baby Jesus? That means you are an atheist. Oh! You are an atheist? That means you have read everything Dawkins ever wrote and fit into the de Waal stereotype.

When all along you don't give a rats arse about bloody Jesus or the nocturnal antics of his priests and just wish god botherers would stop trying to dictate society and by association you.