Sorry Grishka that you perceive I am "arguing" in some way (possibly,with you). For the first time. I am puzzled by the content one of your posts, that normally seem well thought out, clear and to the point.

Let me be clear:

As to my statements to pete, if that what you refer to - I was protesting his characterization of a group of people - that seemed "off the mark.

If it was my statements to your reference to "church members" and morality issues, I clearly stated that there are too many "confounding" issues to accept one piece of research (that you referred to) at face value.

My last post was mostly a piece of personal reflection (a story, if you will) and hardly was representative of a broad experience in many global societies.

Regardless, I believe I made my objection-point to pete - which he seemed to somewhat clarify (in a manner). So, that matter is in the past, with me, anyway.