I usually stay away from "under the blue line" because people are just too rude down here, but, there are times when I weaken and every time I do I somehow end up reading through something like this thread and I wonder... do people like Songwronger and Bobert actually exist, or are they stereotyped caricatures of extreme opposing views typed in by some ghost writer just to keep people arguing? I know, I know, just "f*ck off" because I'm a troll, right?