Normal decent rational people shouldn't have to understand yet God botherers want to influence them.

What don't I understand? The difference between believing and claiming to have belief for starters. The ability to mumble amen when a vicar talks of God creating and looking after us, and then claim it is all symbolic. Then insist on upholding laws concerning Sunday opening of shops.   I don't recall church bodies asking politicians to repeal the medieval blasphemy laws for that matter. Rational people got it struck down by legal precedent.

In the final analysis, it may be polite but certainly isn't useful to discuss whether the moon landings happened with someone who reckons they didn't. So why do we have to respect delusional fantasy just because our ancestors did? If someone starts a conversation with the idea that there is a God and his angels shagged a carpenter's wife and the child could do magic tricks and didn't really die when they crucified him etc etc.   

We are not talking at the same level. The superstition involved means I cannot have a rational argument with irrational people.

Hence these threads can never achieve consensus.