Keith
You continue to openly lie on this thread
You have persistently and deliberately ascribed beliefs to some of us that we do not hold.
You have claimed that you have been given no examples of persecutions by the Christian Church - I have just given you several extreme examples which you once again ignore and "pass by on the other side" as is the wont of some self-proclaimed 'Christians'
You even lie when you openly and dishonestly implicate your most loyal and consistent supporter in your lies.
"MtheGM repeatedly asked for examples - none have yet been produced."
He hasn't repeatedly asked for anything, nor has he stod by on the sidelines - he has conceded that these are abuses but "not on the same scale as those perpetrated against Christians"
He has even taken you to task (gently) for your manic insistence that the church has no say in the termination laws in Catholic countries.
It remain's to be seen whether he will confirm or deny this, just as it does whether Mac will continue to deny (or stay silent about) your agenda-driven dishonesty.
You have the Midas touch in reverse - the tiny handful of people who have ever supported you come away smelling of the foetid garbage that passes for your opinions.
You obviously have no intention of responding to the examples of Christian Church persecution that you have been given.
Will you at least have the honesty of confirming that you have no intention of doing so, and perhaps say why you take this unbelievably inhuman stance in light of the fact that the revelations of these horrific events have been instrumental not only in changing Irish law, but gone some way towards undermining and loosening the Church's centuries-old grip on Irish society?         
Jim Carroll