Don, it's no use... trying to open a closed mind is often a waste of effort.

Yesterday I was at my chiropractor & the receptionist there is in 100% agreement with the 'wronger. She even went so far as to disparage democracy... it obviously let her down by "allowing" the election of our President.

It would problably take a burning bush or other "miracle" to penetrate that kind of entrenched attitude - can't call it thinking, because they do not want to be distracted from their opinions by anything like even handed examination. They seek only affirmation of their dogmatic stance.