This is discussion. I am on a phone, and posting links isn't easy. In debate with anyone else, people comment on the content of the post. You are supposed to comment on what I write, not my source. This is not a viva. I take it on the chin that you quote ( both in and out of context) from sources other than in your head, and you should afford others the same courtesy rather than name calling and denigrating.

My sources are genuine, and my Athens access allows me quick access to reliable checked sources, rather than whatever Google throws up. If you can't access some of it, that is not my issue. Name calling and accusations of making things up negates the possibility of meaningful discussion with you.

I repeat.

Are there any people out there who could give a credible Christian perspective on this issue? (I said credible, pete....). Only our resident boutique Christian has lost all vestiges of credibility.