Dunno where to start with this thread.

Other than a beard comment, I have kept quiet. However...

I don't care much for x music, y literature, z celebrity. I can respect their talent though. Likewise, I can admire and love the wonderful cello work of Maurice Gendron, yet accept that the evidence suggests if he were alive today, he'd be sharing a cell with Stuart Hall.

Likewise Russel Brand. He is an articulate intelligent person who makes money. He entertains many many people, not me but many. I don't dismiss talent, although his radio set with Jonathan Ross, which didn't get many complaints till it became big news, let's not forget, was awful and although bitchiness is part and parcel of entertainment, doesn't make their stunt any better. Although, when we say granddaughter, let's not forget we are not talking a little girl with a teddy bear, we are talking a publicist who dropped her knickers for Brand in order to get on in the limelight.

No.

My biggest eye opener on this thread is the pathetic conspiracy theory crap, put about by Michael, who puts himself forward as a rational person, or at least till the cracks appear, as they have done on a few threads lately.

If nothing else, it allows me to dismiss his views in general, because he must be living in a fantasy world. For crying out loud, even Akenhateon is saying we must be tolerant of views! (I draw the line at his though...)