Ah, fortunately I've decided to have lunch where they have WI-FI, so For a moment longer I can respond.

Don T does make a valid point and at the same time doesn't pretend that Obama's statements didn't happen.

First of all, I am not aware of Songwronger's history one way or another. When I came to this forum upon this visit, I just perused the topic headings to see what people were re-acting to in the latest current news. I don't feel that I'm in a proper position to comment on your allegation that Songwronger is a bigoted such and such. However, from what I've seen as merely a visitor, there does seem to be a penchant to accuse a person with a different view with reckless abandon of common decency.

I, myself, referred to Mr.Firth a 'despot', but not for his political views one way or another, but for the content of his comment, that his Medicare plan worked for him, and he didn't seem too concerned about other people who had no medical coverage. In that regard, my comment would be accurate without characterising him with a blanket accusation of his overall outlook. Mr. Firth has not given a reasonable reply, as to cause me to change my first observation, though I have given him repeated opportunities to do such.

I tend to agree with your assessment of the monopolistic nature of insurance companies and am personally persuaded that a realistic reform bill in regards to that would have been a better solution in dealing with that issue.

I do not and cannot support a leader of a country with out and out lying to its populace, just in order to foster his pet project or programmes. Just tell the people the truth and let them decide. Isn't that what a Democracy is all about anyway?

On most every other point you make I don't seem to have issue with other than one. In your closing statement you say, "Then why sub standard healthcare, or no healthcare? Both perfectly O.K. with the Republican Party!"
My question to you would be, Do you think that there are no poor Republicans? And furthermore, Don't you think there are wealthy Democrats? It seems to me that people from both the major parties would be equally affected, as most people would seem to be outside the ruling class, even if Mr. Obama does belong to the Democrat Party.

Something about this whole matter seems very suspicious and destructive to me. Otherwise it could have been presented truthfully.
If the people like it, let them vote on it honestly and let them know exactly what is in it, what is not in it, what it covers, what it doesn't cover and do so accurately.

If the insurance companies offer something different, let them do so honestly even if it takes a reform bill to accomplish it.

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