jim,
debate has not been possible because as usual[similiar to your correspondence with keith a of hertford] you resort to personal attacks[ my merits as a workshop leader and/ or teacher and singer, instead of providing facts when you were asked to, whats new Jim, you do this all the time on this forum.
you accuse me of self promotion,you attack my ability to teach or run workshops, then you come back in saying you dont want to discuss the merits of my singing after saying that i am only good enough to encourage.
the statement of fact [which you call self promotion], has been in response to your rubbishing of me, plus tony haynes rev bayes[ cowardly anonymous troll.