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Thread #152434   Message #3573665
Posted By: GUEST,sciencegeek
07-Nov-13 - 02:03 PM
Thread Name: BS: So who's signed up for Obamacare?
Subject: RE: BS: So who's signed up for Obamacare?
this whole topic is skewed, thanks to the wronger's need to disparage our President. There is NO such thing as "Obamacare"... and the Affordable Care Act was passed by Congress, not waved into existence by the executive branch.

Secondly, the ACA is designed only to bring the millions of Americans who are under or uninsured - read that to mean "what they have sucks" OR "ain't got no insurance"- into a health system with standards and affordability.   Those who already have employer provided health insurance generally meet the minimum standards or better, because no company wants to be paying out good money for crap. The insurance companies can only pull that BS on individuals who have little or no chocie in the matter... or fall for their gimmicks and don't realize how badly they are being screwed.

What we already have are Social Security and Medicare...
Social Security pays retirement, disability, family and survivors benefits. Medicare, a separate program run by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, helps pay for inpatient hospital care, nursing care, doctor's fees, drugs and other medical services and supplies to people age 65 or older, as well as to people who have been receiving Social Security disability benefits for two years or more. Medicare does not pay for long term care, so people may want to consider options for private insurance. If you pay into Social Security, then the covered earnings qualify you for both programs.


And for those without a pot to pee in, there is Medicaid.

I have health insurance through my job & my husband is over 65, so he is on Medicare... neither one of us has to do anything, so we didn't. We didn't go online to "check things out" and clog up the system for others. Does that mean we don't care... of course not, and to imply otherwise is insulting and just plain ignorant.

In fact, I'd prefer a single payer system because the only choices we have are single or family.... and every married couple that carries "family" coverage but has no children is subsidizing everyone else's kids. You want ten kids, pay for them yourselves thank you very much. And yes, I can keep hubby on my insurance plan... but I would still have to pay the full family fee and that will only cover the 20% that Medicare doesn't. The AARP advantage program is the better deal and our doctors belong to both plans.

And if this is as clear as mud... well, why do you think many of us want the current system changed. Level playing field, one set of rules for everyone...