"so you think you could design a better human eye! I don't think so.!"

I don't think so either. I couldn't design a better motor car either, but there are people who can. They do it all the time and know all the ins and outs. We call these people 'experts'.


"how you can think the human eye less than wonderful, beats me."

Whoa there! I certainly do think the human eye is wonderful, I'm simply saying it could be better if deliberately designed. Your watchmaker is a bit crap at eye design if she thinks the human (read mammalian - I really hate this arrogant, evil, idea humans are the pinnacle of creation) eye is the most efficient and brilliant eye ever is all I'm saying. It's not even the best mammalian eye.


"I suspect it was even better at the beginning before the fall, and mutational build up."

You really don't understand how allele mutation works do you? You need to understand this to debate it Pete!

So from a biblical literalist point of view, does this mean natural selection was NOT occurring before Adam and Eve got rumbled for looking at each other's wobbly bits? Was evolution in god-induced stasis before the two of them got it on? Where does it say that in the bible?