Mr. Firth SAYS, "Trying to discuss anything with you is hopeless."

Ridiculous. You are the one who is interchanging the conversation about ACA and then go on about 'single payer'. Single payer is NOT the subject of this topic. Just look above. Here, I'll save you the trouble: "RE: BS: So who's signed up for Obamacare?" What I was and am saying is that the lying about it and misrepresenting what was in it, that was not even read by those who voted on it seems to be the biggest problem. Perhaps if they DID read it it could have been a single payer bill AND improvements might have been incorporated. As it is now, it's looking like and utter failing mess!
Perhaps you should stop your lying as well. That way you wouldn't have to 'twist' it around and say stupid and misleading like, ""Trying to discuss anything with you is hopeless."

"That's not an insult. That's a FACT.""
So if you want to carry on a decent conversation with me or anyone, for that matter, dispense with the misstatements, diversions lies, and wild accusations; and while you're at it, you might apply that to defending politicians who do the same. THEN the conversation will go to an up-tick.

Sciencegeek, you said in your first segment, "There is a definite effort on the part of Republican run states to disenfranchise as many citizens as they can get away with in the hopes that the reduced voting pool will consist of like minded individuals who will keep them in power. Very democratic, wouldn't you say?"

Yes I definitely would and would also add that There is a definite effort on the part of DEMOCRAT run states to disenfranchise as many citizens as they can get away with in the hopes that the reduced voting pool will consist of like minded individuals who will keep them in power. Very democratic, wouldn't you say?"
YES again, but as you pointed out, " Very democratic, wouldn't you say?"   If you don't believe me just look at those who are Democrats on this site, who bash Republicans, and the reverse! You even have Democrats accusing me of being right wing and a Republican. Not because they have anything to base it on, other than I've posed questions that the Democrats have a hard time answering, without resorting to lying accusations and snide remarks coupled with wild diversions. Just review Mr. Firth's dialogue with me! That said, you have been more on topic,, but you should apply the same standards to both sides(as illustrated).

Sciencegeek continues, "This cCongress is a disgrace... but there are no laws that will penalize them for their actions - or inactions as the case may be."
Are you referring to the Congress who was in the majority of both Houses who voted on a bill along partisan lines that they didn't even bother to read? In that case, you are absolutely correct! If the Republicans do that(and they do) don't you scream bloody murder? (as you should). You really do need to apply the same standards to both sides, as I mentioned before.

Sciencegeek, goes on, "And we still have way too many people in this country ready to hate anyone with skin color that doesn't match theirs. That is the sad truth we are struggling with."

What does this have to do with the ACA? Nothing! Playing the racial issue is an old tactical trick that really doesn't work any more. Speaking of which, black unemployment numbers are proportionately WAY up since the Obama Presidency. Is he being racist?

Sciencegeek goes on, "As for elected officials... there is no civil service test needed or minimum qualifications to run for office. It's less about what an individual has done and more about what their parents achieved, so they ride on the tail of another's success. AND they have paid their "dues" to the party machine and have little desire to rock the boat."

Sounds like you are referring to the prior experience and expertise that Obama had before the elite ran him. Again, apply the same standards to both sides of an issue before you start pointing fingers, Remember, when you point a finger, there are three others pointing back to you!

And finally 'Guest', "

Are you all incapable of sticking to the subject with any continuity?
Are you incapable of answering direct easy questions.
Have the Repugnants ever tried affordable health care? If so, when? "

I'm not defending one side or another, but to answer your question, I believe it was under your former President Bush that they made subsidies for cheaper prescription medicine. That said, I don't think the Republicans have done much to even regulate the insurance companies nor health care costs. Now that it has become a huge topic out there because of the Obama Care fiasco. I expect that they will probably make some sort of feeble attempt if not a worse one.

All done?

I think I answered you all fairly and accurately.

As a side note to you all, especially Mr. Firth; you all might want to check into Taiwan's health care system, rated the best in the world, and best with patient's satisfaction. Been there too.