Civility in discourse is a sine qua non at MOAB, Amos. You know that. Mom would never tolerate it if, for example, I were to call you a cross-eyed, unweaned, skunk-jumpin' urinal drinker even if it were true. She would force me to admit that you are neither strabismic nor drink from urinals and I would admit that was true. That would force me to apologize and of course a gentleman, such as you are, accepts an apology no matter how badly one is tendered. Civility and politeness are the watch-words of any truly great MC thread and MOAB just reeks of both.