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Thread #152856   Message #3580641
Posted By: Keith A of Hertford
02-Dec-13 - 07:14 AM
Thread Name: BS: The Pope's Survey
Subject: RE: BS: The Pope's Survey
Etymology[edit]
From pale, a jurisdiction under a given authority; often held by one nation in another country, hence suggesting that anything outside their control was uncivilized. It was in use by the mid-17th century. The phrase may be a reference to the general sense of boundary, but is often understood to refer to the English Pale in Ireland. In the nominally English territory of Ireland, only the pale fell genuinely under the authority of English law, hence the terms within the pale and beyond the pale.