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Thread #152785   Message #3582274
Posted By: Keith A of Hertford
07-Dec-13 - 04:44 AM
Thread Name: BS: Armistice Day (debate)
Subject: RE: BS: Armistice Day (debate)
You are indeed a drooling, giggling fool.
If one historian is a homophobic monster, his work is not discredited, so it would have no bearing on this discussion.

Hastings nowhere says Turing deserved his punishment, so you lied.
He makes clear that NO prosecuted homosexual deserved it.
His point is just that it is unfair to just pardon one out of thousands."But a pardon? To me and many others, this is a travesty, further evidence of David Cameron's foolish submissiveness to popular whim and gesture.
If Turing is to have a pardon, why not also thousands of others, including one of my own great-uncles — who was imprisoned for homosexual offences in the Twenties, and such a man as Ian Harvey?"

He describes Turin as a "hero" and a "genius."
He says his OBE was an inadequate recognition of his work.

He makes it clear that his punishment was NOT deserved,"Now, it seems extraordinary that none among his war-time employers — in 1952 Churchill was again Prime Minister — heard of Turing's condition and intervened at least to spare him from his ghastly fate at the hands of the doctors.
But the Secret Service has never been a humane or generous employer."

"In any event, he suffered his punishment and met his squalid end in a fashion for which Britain is right today to be ashamed."

So, he says that Britain should be ashamed of what it did to Turing, not that he deserved it.
You lied Musket.
Yet again, a lying, drooling, giggling buffoon.