shimrod and dave being deliberately ignorant of the list of scientists who are creationist - not to mention many more who are Darwin doubters. granted it took 3 pages on the web to find the long list of creation scientists, as before that, rational[?]wiki hijacks the entries. I think musket is mistaken in thinking that scientists are immune to their research and conclusions being coloured by their own worldviews. creationists though are generally upfront as to their worldview. I should note however that some evolutionists have admitted the lack of evidence for their position, and I have previously quoted such.
I don't know what the supposedly insulting bit is that I am charged with copying?

methinks you are being evasive, stu. as I said,- maybe not scientific lanquage.........if I am factually way off, please enlighten me.
I know of course you reject the conclusion.
so, what is your point regarding stars, other than assuming to guess that God would approve of evolutionists attempting to disprove him as creator. how do stars fly in the face of creationism? . I know that their light is coming to us from before a creation date, but their are models that address this, and I understand that evolutionary ideas also have problems fitting it in also.

so how do you define those terms, grishka?
I believe there is a good definition by kerkut, of the general theory of evolution , which is probably known to you?.