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Thread #152125   Message #3585023
Posted By: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
17-Dec-13 - 06:25 PM
Thread Name: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
well, stu, I suppose you make a point in saying that creation is not repeatable in the sense of beginnings.
that is sort of parallel to your faith that the GTE happened as per kerkut above. [pleased no one had a problem with that].
however, as the theist posits a creator, there is a logical source to creation. shimrod may keep evading that by his "who made..etc....",and we could argue as to the being of the creator, or if he needed a creator, but fact remains that there is no evidence for abiogenesis - it is a faith position, as is the assertion ,that science is closing in on the "problem".
cause and effect, was, I would have thought pretty basic, as is, there was no cause, and no laws of science, if there was ever a point when there was absolutely nothing. evolutionists further assert that scientific law [ie- myriad observations of biogenesis] was broken.
then you have the cheek to mock believers for having faith.
and that is just the genesis [pun intended!] of your theory before getting to further change in scientific norms to accommodate your story.