THIS IS A CROCK OF SHIT..AND ..I'll TELL YOU WHY!!!


Firth: "Then, when President Obama tries to improve the system so that everybody has adequate coverage, you have a wall-eyed hissy-fit. Why? For no good reason except that it's Obama who's trying to fix it.

I would like to see universal, one payer coverage, but Obama is not so stupid as to think he can get that through a majority Right Wing Congress. I understand what he is trying to do and I also understand why he is doing it that way. It is far from perfect, but it's the best he could hope to get under the circumstances.

And the Right Wing Congress STILL blocks it!

I give Obama full marks for giving it a try."

Starting from the top:
Firth: "Then, when President Obama tries to improve the system so that everybody has adequate coverage, you have a wall-eyed hissy-fit. Why? For no good reason except that it's Obama who's trying to fix it."

Fix it???...How? By lying to the nation about what it was??..and then adding these 'adjustments'??....BTW, if Congress passed it, and signed it, and he signed it in its original form, the Executive Branch cannot change it by fiat, 'executive orders', or by tweaking it at his whim to try to save political face. The bill has to stand, or go through the legislative process.
Also, have you noticed that those further down on the political 'food chain', who were in charge of failed parts of it, who also were caught lying to Congress, in the subsequent hearings, not one has been fired or hardly reprimanded? (Same as Benghazi and other crimes, IRS, Fast and Furious, etc. etc(but that's another bunch of issues).

Firth: "I would like to see universal, one payer coverage, but Obama is not so stupid as to think he can get that through a majority Right Wing Congress. I understand what he is trying to do and I also understand why he is doing it that way. It is far from perfect, but it's the best he could hope to get under the circumstances."

This is PURE horseshit, and a lying talking point from DAY ONE!
Obama got this passed, lobbied for it, gave waivers and other bribes, to get the votes to pass it....it passed through a Democrat House of Representatives, and a Democrat Senate, being as at the time, it was a Democrat majority controlled Congress, BOTH HOUSES!!...and he signed it!! There was NO Republican way, to in ANY way, change it, add to it, subtract from it, or even obstruct it. It was so closed up, that the Senate did not, and could not even see or read the last minute changes, before they voted on it. I hope everyone remembers Herr Pelosi's now famous, pre-vote speech, about "Let's pass this bill, so we can see what's in it.."
Oh, speaking of 'closed up'..remember candidate Obama promising transparency????? Remember him promising all negotiations for bills would be put up on C-SPAN??..open to all the public???..more horseshit!

Firth: "And the Right Wing Congress STILL blocks it!"

Blocks what??? It is already the law....he's the one changing it,(illegally) about weekly.

Firth: "I understand what he is trying to do and I also understand why he is doing it that way."

Well why don't you in your 'infinite wisdom', explain it all PLAINLY!
And while you're at it, explain that WHY if he had the political muscle of both Houses, in the beginning, why he didn't pass it the way you say he wanted it...when he KNEW damn well there was not enough opposition to it to oppose, block, alter or obstruct it in ANY WAY!
BTW, both the Democrats lost a lot of seats in Both Houses in the following elections due to it...AND...a lot of Democrats who voted Democrat in the prior elections, voted AGAINST their own party because of it....and now this year they are expecting to be slaughtered in the next election...because of Obamacare. Democrat polls plunging...Obama approval rating lower than Bush's, at the same time into their last term...

Now so much for the bullshit politics of it.....
Why doesn't Firth explain what the Obama Administration REALLY want...and who does he want it for???

EVERYTHING that I replied to, is all truthful and EASILY provable!!
Some of you should be easily able to remember the history as it unfolded....so what is this continuation of lies for???

The people are voting by NOT 'enrolling'....The people who lost their existing coverage are voting by NOT buying the lies or the Obamacare policies....Medicaid was always available to those who qualified, before their was an Obamacare....and yet the numbers of 'enrollees' are MOSTLY Medicaid.....the younger demographic wants nothing to do with it. The people are more willing to pay a fine and pay for healthcare right out of their pockets than to enroll in it...This is clearly civil disobedience on an unprecedented scale, for this country(maybe except for the illegal drug market).

So Don, just what the fuck are you talking about???
..and this time see if you can NOT divert the thread...but ANSWER the question like a 'normal' person.

You can call me anything you want....IF you CAN'T or WON'T answer the question. there's a few Democrats in Mudcat, that might like to have answers as well.....BECAUSE....(as I posted during the last presidential elections)....the Democrats are about to hand over ALL this ill gotten gain to the Republicans...both Houses and the Presidency to the Republicans....in it's present form!
(Gosh, you'd think those insurance corporation lobbyists would have known that, too...from the beginning??)..awww..they wouldn't care..they'd just buy the Republicans, too....it wouldn't be the first time!

OK, Firth..explain....save the name calling...it won't be your saving grace!

GfS