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Thread #152125   Message #3587017
Posted By: Bill D
27-Dec-13 - 07:48 PM
Thread Name: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p
"Can anyone believe that someone can proudly come on here and shamelessly spout this tripe?"

Yes.. I can... because I see the very BASIC flaw in the approach.

He said :"that the original purpose of sexual organs on any living creature was for procreation."

Due not only to ake's fundamental misuse of the term 'purpose', but also to the tendency of others insert so many insults into the debate that their often quite relevant points are lost in a bad signal-to-noise ratio, it is hard to stay focused on the issue.

akenaton: first- it is a very bad practice to C&P an 'explanation' with no quotation marks or attribution:

and second...Natural laws and developments of evolution do not HAVE 'purpose' in the sense you wish to propound. It is quite true that some sort of conditions must be in place for organisms to reproduce.. and more complex organisms develop complex bio-chemical mechanisms that often lead to reproduction. As long as a certain proportion of any species DOES reproduce, there can be amazingly varied offshoots & byways in the details of characteristics. Just as hair color and height can vary widely, so can the genetic structure that defines the hormonal balance that controls not only sexual reproduction, but also affects the subtleties of sexual attraction! You do not have to accept MY word on this: the studies and statistics are there for anyone to read and evaluate. (No, I don't have time to cite 27 cross-references right now... I just read links posted in various collections of scientific journals.)

There is **NOT** an either/or about sexual preference... there is a complex continuum of variations from total, absolute heterosexuality to some sort of bisexuality to complete, overwhelming homosexuality.... with cultural and social influences operating on exactly we react to the hormonal % we are given. (and I haven't even mentioned various asexual examples or those born with organs of BOTH sexes in various configurations).

If you have a compulsion to view the variations in human behavior as agreeing with or denying some higher 'purpose', that says more about your psychology than about 'natural law'.