Stu. Your default position, which you hold religiously, to the point of bad mouthing your positions detractors , is that only naturalistic causes are allowable. This is not provable, and infact the argument from design, and the large lack of evidence for the all from nothing via no one alternative origins story, is a good argument for a creator ."

No - my position, like my research is totally open to to question, and therefore cannot be a religious view.

I'm quite afraid of religious extremists, literalists and fundamentalists. The people who take everything as read and seek to impose their views on others regardless of whether those people agree or not. Deniers of free thought and personal freedom, who rely in falsehoods, aggression and intimidation to oppress others in spirit and body, especially women. See: Creationists.

Naturalistic causes? God is not 'natural'? You might be onto something there Pete old love.

Finally, you would't know the scientific method if you saw it Your last sentence is typically garbled, but I think I get the gist. You cannot preach to me about evidence as you really don't know what you're talking about, and in the long journey that has been this thread have made no effort to do so. A shame really, because you're missing so much.

Happy New Year to everyone on this thread! It's been a real learning experience, and that's no bad thing.