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Thread #133984   Message #3588035
Posted By: Jim Carroll
01-Jan-14 - 04:34 AM
Thread Name: BS: Christmas Truce (1914)
Subject: RE: BS: Christmas Truce (1914)
"Have you found one living historian who supports your views yet?"
Our education system supports the popular view of history - the history - our established and fully qualified historians have written he history of World War One - it has been a done deal for half a century.
You have presented a minute handful of totally unknown 'historians' and a scabloid journalist - most, apart from the journalist, who in no way back up what you say (go and read what they do have to say) - and suggest we take a quantum leap back to the jingoistic propaganda which conned millions of young men to sacrifice their lives for a dead and discredited Empire - yeah sure - where do I sign!!!!
I'm delighted you actually own a book - I suggest you read it before you put it on the Oxfam pile.
You have a list of who your 'distinguished historians' are and aren't and what they do and don't have to say n a subject that was peripheral to their (unknown) skills - they say nothing resembling your pathetically quaint flag-waving.
You are continuing to present your scabloid journalist (your main and only witness to your claims) as a 'historian' - he isn't - he is a journalist for a scabloid newspaper - which more-or-less sums yup your case .
You have been given masses of long accepted information from respectable and fully accredited sources - you have rejected them all.
You have described historians like Liddell Hart and Trevelyan as 'revisionists and romantics' and soldiers who fought I the war and gave their experiences as "liars" - Sasson, Liddell Hart, Robert Graves, Patrick MacGill - eve poor old Tommy Kenny, the Liverpool docker who lied about his age to join up and got his ears blown off for his (in his own words) "totally misguided stupidity in believeing the bastards lies".
You insult them, you insult genuine historians who have worked over the intervenient period to make sense of a bloody and greed-inspired conflict that robbed millions of young man of their lives and their health - you insult our intelligence by expecting anybody to take up your antiquated cause
Dream on
Jim Carroll