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Thread #133984   Message #3588724
Posted By: Jim Carroll
03-Jan-14 - 01:31 PM
Thread Name: BS: Christmas Truce (1914)
Subject: RE: BS: Christmas Truce (1914)
"Only obscure to ignorant, unread know-nothings like you two!"
Er - and the reast of us -you have no supporters here - not on this forum and not among established historians
"The BBC History site is just "jackanory,"
Nowhere among your carefully selected claims has anybody wholeheartedly set out to change history - not one individual - not even Max Beerbohm (or whatever his name is)
It is you who has insisted on only accepting evidence from qualified historians (only as long as they presented views which back up your own, of course)
You have rejected all evidence that hasn't come from a tabloid journalist and a couple of obscure examples you have dredged up and have rejected the statements of the views of some of the most eminent British historians - and called those who were there to witness the events themselves (including one who has always been regarded as a leading authority) as "liars" and "romantics"
"Can you find anyone of any authority still pushing you old, discredited myths."
"Can you find anyone of any authority still pushing you old, discredited myths."
When are you going to respond to the fact that ALL AUTHORITATIVE HISTORIANS TODAY ACCEPT THE TRADITIONAL VIEW AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO UNTIL EVIDENCE IS PRODUCED THAT CAUSES A MAJOR SEA-CHANGE IN BRITISH HISTORICAL THOUGHT - NO SUCH CHANGE HAS TAKEN PLACE YET
There has been no rethink - there has been no change of heart, there has not even been any significant discussion o the major conclusions of the war - just the acceptance that it is a 100 years since stupidity and greed plunged the world into a murderously, badly organised war that need never have taken place - one of your own historians said exactly that - read your own cut-'n-pastes.      
One thing that has been pointed out recently - covered in one of the links on the other thread is the suggestion is the suggestion that the 100th anniversary and the fact that all of those who actually participated in the war has provided the jingoists with an ideal opportunity to whitewash the military and political leaders of the time and maybe show that the Empire wasn't so bad after all.
You have been, are and will continue to be an utter dipstick - that's something that will never change while you pontificate on subjects you have not enough interest in to read up beforehand - read a book.
Pip-pip
Jim Carroll