Meant to add - you are now attempting to turn this into one of your circular arguments to avid the important fats. I has been established and is now totally accepted that soldiers were persuaded and tricked into joining up - so much so that 18 months after the war began the authorities were forced to admit that their recruiting campaign had failed The war was an Imperialist one between interested powers competing for international influence and markets (never contradicted, and even supported by your own 'historians and (and tabloid journalists) The soldiers - those who survived - returned home and were treated like shit - sent to fight in Ireland and turned against their fellow workers who were fighting to survive, British governments mishandled the peace and betrayed the people again y plunging them into yet another war They did nothing to stop the rise of Hitler, rather, some of the prominent members encouraged him in his efforts to wipe out the Jews Never gets more simple than that Beware of circular arguments - you end up disappearing up your own jaxie Jim Carroll