Jack and Ake, you certainly have twisted what I said. If Ian/Musket were congenial in these discussions, this would certainly be a better place for an intelligent exchange of ideas. Similarly, if Jack the Sailor could lose his distorted perception of the "rules" and his combative attitude, and be less of a self-righteous prig, this might be a place where an intelligent exchange of ideas could be possible.

As far as I can see, the only offense committed by Ake and Pete in this forum, is that they have dared to express conservative ideas amidst a liberal majority - but they have always done so in a polite and civil manner, and I respect that. And if they didn't express their ideas, what would the liberals have to respond to? For discussion to happen, it has to go in two directions - but in an atmosphere of civility and respect.

And yes, I think that Ian/musket has been unfair in his attacks against others, particularly against Ake. One would think that Ian would be above that sort of nastiness, but apparently not.

And since I have dared to question the conduct of the exquisitely self-righteous Jack the Sailor, he will soon, as in the past, commence to squeal like a stuck pig....

-Joe Offer-