Eliza said, in part:

I agree with Dave above, telepathy if it exists, can take place without the presence of the other person.

Assuming that I am the Dave referred to, I did not say that.

Of course one needs "a recipient mind", like Gnu in his incident; otherwise you have no event.

But my last scenario, the remote seeing or remote sensing of the emergency event, does not require "the other person" as "a sender". If it exists, it seems to me sort of a supernatural or spiritual concept, rather than telepathy or empathy. I TEND to categorically reject senderless remote perception. I can't make an absolute statement that it cannot exist, although I'd like to do that. Proving that negative is way beyond my logical powers.

Either telepathy (if it exists) or empathy require what I'll call "a sender"--J*** or an EMT, etc. in Gnu's case.


Dave Oesterreich