Big Al, Van Ronk DID turn down that job in a trio that later was PP&M. Part of his problem with it was Al Grossman himself. If you read DVR's book he tells about the time that Grossman said to him that he would guarantee David a $100,000 a year, without changing his repertoire. All Van Ronk had to was to wear a viking helmet and change his name to "Olaf The Blues Singer". Of course Dave turned him down. He said that Grossman didn't know that his price was $120,000 a year.

Mark Ross