And what is this silly illogical tirade against witnesses? Witnesses aren't lazy. Witnesses are observers. Witness are observers who recount what they have observed.

Witnesses in the context of religion are either liars or deluded. There is no other option. Witnesses in the religious context claim to have seen or experienced things that cannot be corroborated. They should, at best, be ignored, or, at worst, be vilified.

Science doesn't gather a damned thing science is a process not a person. Scientists gather evidence and submit it for approval. Scientists are people and people make mistakes and believe things. They believe things such as scientific principles and Newtons laws.

Utter tripe from start to finish. You clearly have no idea what science is about. And you omitted an apostrophe.

BTW are you aware of the changes to the the rules on this forum?

Nope, dope. Did you not see that I have been offline for almost the whole of benighted Janvier?

"You are free to be anything you want EXCEPT unkind, impolite, argumentative, snooty, or either FOR or AGAINST that of-what-we-do-not-speak."

Why, thanks for the heads-up, wacko! I wonder whether this quote of yours fits the "new rules":

>>>There are no Darwin's witnesses, here or anywhere else.<<<< Its a fucking cartoon Steve, unbunch your panties!!

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