I'm sorry Dave, but I fear you are the one who is playing with words.

"I could ask you to name a cleric that put a weapon in a boy's hand and ordered him to kill. "

You give me a story about 25 men allegedly preaching hate, none of whom are accused of putting any weapon in any hands. None of whom are accused of ordering a any specific person to kill any person or group.


"Anyone care to start the ball rolling with any number of scientists who preach hatred? I think not somehow."

Scientists don't preach. Would you care to start the ball rolling with any number of clerics who design and construct weapons?

"But it is being implied that science is the new religion and is becoming as bad. "

I didn't imply this. Never have I implied this. Shaw and Musket said I was saying this. But in fact I never have. I have said outright that Steve Shaw and many like him are as bad as many evangelical missionaries. I think comparing his behavior to pete's on this thread alone makes that case on the face of it. But on the whole I think that both science and religion are wonderful and have brought many benefits to mankind. Certainly both have seen abuses and caused death and suffering. But I am for both and against neither. But we must be vigilant of false prophets and snake oil salesmen.