>>Jack, if you are still working with your science-lite that you are inventing so as not to confuse poor pete's befuddled brain with the real thing, then you can say whatever you like. If you want to work with real science, then I suggest you do your own research and avoid any definitve pronouncements until you have a better idea of what you are talking about.<<

Did I say I wanted to "Work with real science?" I am just having an argument on an internet forum. Are you doing real science by pompously lecturing me? Incidentally, under what authority are you speaking for "real science." Are you a member of Steve's priesthood? Because simply being dogmatic as you are now, is in my mind, not a very scientific, or polite way to behave.