pete, I didn't say that Nye triumphed. I was arguing that he had good reason to appear on TV with Mr. Ham.

"Christianity Today" had a poll conducted and found that 92% thought that Mr Nye has won the debate. That indicates to me that Mr. Nye reached a large and receptive audience in his appeal for additional support and funding for science education.

Mr Ham was generous enough to agree with Mr. Nye on the importance of science education.

I think that Ham lost the "debate" on two cases of lack of integrity. His unfounded personal attack on Mr Nyes engineering work at Boeing and his refusals to answer almost all of the questions posed.