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Thread #133984   Message #3599998
Posted By: Jim Carroll
10-Feb-14 - 06:33 AM
Thread Name: BS: Christmas Truce (1914)
Subject: RE: BS: Christmas Truce (1914)
"It is a lie that you have produced dissenting historians."
I make a mistakes - you make false claims
I acknowledged my mistakes and apologise - you make mistakes and constantly lie - you invariably refuse to withdraw them and describe apoligising as "snivelling"
"It is a lie that you have produced dissenting historians."
No it isn't - nearly every historian on that list you consider unreadable hasn't considered fit to respond in any way to your tiny group of revisionsists in any way at all - indicating that their views haven't even raised a blip on the historical studies Richter scale - in other words, they are quite happy to go along with the accepted view of history
There has not been the enormous reversal back to the Empire interpretation of World War One that you are promoting. If there had been we would be aware of such a change and the education curriculum would have been radically altered - it hasn't.
The Paxman programmes have all reiterated accepted history so far; Imperialist war, incompetent leadership, premature action, badly armed and trained soldiers, lying (and profiteering) propaganda; profiteering landlords and businesses, - all there to been seen in ghastly detail

You have called the historians I am familiar with: Clark, Liddel-Hart (a WW1 soldier), Trevelyan, Briggs.... any historian who doesn't follow your particular twisted line, "romantics and distorting revisionists")
You have rejected Britain's most loved and read war poets, who took part in the conflict as liars with an agenda.
You have described recorded testimonies that don't fit in with your agenda, from soldiers who fought in the conflict as "lies" - Your statement "soldiers tell lies".
That is the situation with historians today on WW1 none of them feel the need to turn history on its head as you have.
You have produced a handful who feel that certain aspects of the war need fine tuning - it remains to be seen if they are right, but on the whole, every single one of them adheres to the existing history of the war; none have attempted to re-write that history the way you have - not one single historian.
THE ONES YOU HAVE PRODUCED HAVE NOT REACHED AN OVERALL CONSENSUS - CERTAINLY NOT ONE THAT COMES ANYWHERE NEAR YOUR OUTDATED "GLORIOUS EMPIRE" VERSION
If someone was to claim that the world was flat I would be hard pushed to isolate a historian today who is presently claiming it isn't - they all do and don't feel the need to comment on it.   
You have yet to explain your disgraceful behaviour in calling World War One soldiers liars - I doubt that you ever shall - that's what you do best
Jim Carroll