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Thread #153464   Message #3600367
Posted By: TheSnail
11-Feb-14 - 09:54 AM
Thread Name: BS: Darwin's Witnesses
Subject: RE: BS: Darwin's Witnesses
Steve Shaw
Your point about Newton has no relevance to the point of mine you're attempting to connect it with.

I really don't know why you are having trouble with this Steve, it's really very straightforward.

pete suggested that Newton could not be considered a great scientist because of some of his unscientific views.

DMcG responded to pete by saying that "people of the given time work within the understanding of that time and it is basically deceitful to judge them by today.".

You disagreed with DMcG saying that "The "of his time" excuse is a popular fallback. but then diverted the issue into discussions of racism, homophobia, and mysogyny rather than scientific understanding which is what was being discussed.

The question is really quite simple. Do you agree with DMcG that Newton can be excused his stranger ideas, some of which appear to have been governed by a belief in the absolute truth in the Bible, because they were the understanding of that time or do you agree with pete that he should not be regarded as a great scientist because of his, by modern standards, unscientific ideas?