Musket, I thought it was be simpler if I found the quotes rather than the two of you paraphrase and call each other liars.

I don't think either of you are lying.

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Jack. Whilst taking your point that your wife said marriage is marriage so why have a qualifier, the debate here is about when gay people marry, as opposed to ginger people or old people. It is also about putting the term in parentheses as a sneer towards innocent people who deserve better.<<<

Sorry, but no. The debate here is about "Militant Atheism Threads" Steve Shaw has brought it off topic, with another nasty, overblown little rant over a couple of quotation marks.


>>>Your comment that I have an issue with the word atheist is interesting too. Especially as you factor in my pointing out issues of marriage. I don't quite understand where you are coming from, or at least I hope I don't. Literally, atheist means having a view, negatively, on theism. However, most people painted with that pot don't have any view on theism one way or another. For most of us , religion is an irrelevance practiced by others. Not quite anti theist is it?<<<

Again sorry, no. "atheism" literally means without theism. Asexual means without sex, amoral means without morals. I think that Atheist is a neutral label do describe people for whom deities do not exist at all. That's what I believe, that's what the sweet little Anglican minister and choirmaster at our high school taught in comparative religion class. Go ahead, look it up.

Aren't you without theism? Isn't that how you essentially just described yourself? I can see where you would have trouble being described as anti-theist, I do not understand your problem or stringsinger's with "atheist".