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Thread #150193 Message #3602737
Posted By: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
19-Feb-14 - 04:19 AM
Thread Name: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
Subject: RE: BS: Is Obama a Fascist?
Oh, I know!...I'm not a political cat...but suppressed? Yeppers..probably because I'm NOT a political cat....I'm just not as crazy as some of the obsessed, rabid wannabes on here(or for that matter, not in here). If there is one thing that is a complete waste of anyone's time and talents, is trying to find a solution for a lie...and boy!..are there a bunch on here who have been lied to for so long, they couldn't even recognize the truth, even if they hadn't noticed that they've exhausted themselves, by making all sorts of 'spun' excuses for 'their' party's failed bullshit! You just can't explain it all away, without chasing your own tail(talk about spinning!!)
As to Ebbie,(sorry, I didn't do this before, but it's been a long week!)
Ebbie: "OK, let's put it in context. Like most of us, I imagine, I listened to the pre-Superbowl O'Reilly/Obama interview. I knew in what context the President said it but I had to look up the transcript for it.
President Obama was referring to the fond belief the Republicans hold close that the President is "the most liberal US president ever", even though the facts don't even come close to supporting that view."
True.(But that's only because the Republicans, like the Democrats, are told what to think)
"President Nixon is believed by the Republicans to have been an acceptably conservative president- I have heard it said that no other president in modern times could have gone to China as he did to proffer an olive branch. It was a very LIBERAL act."
Actually Prescott Bush had been working that angle since the '50's..and a 'liberal act'?..more like NWO/bankster/multinational corporate business, but for the sake of your point, I don't see why you say it was 'liberal'. Nixon was touted as being a 'true statesman' at the time, (remember?)
"As President Obama said in the interview, President Nixon proposed and passed a number of issues and laws, like the EPA (which the Republicans currently loathe) and set in motion a lot of regulations that affect our air and water even today. To the good. Those were LIBERAL acts."
OK...This is the bit of slight of hand, liberal or not, who knows?
Today, it is seen as 'liberal'..but in reality, if China was going to be developing as a 'player' in the International Conglomerate, they needed to be able to 'control its growth or progress'. Keeping in mind, that this wasn't as much of an American project, as it was an 'economic leveraging'. To do that, instead of anti-monopoly and anti-trust laws, they needed an International Regulatory Body of 'regulations'....now here's the trick that sly bastards have been using, (and you can look this up) It's called 'Captive Regulations' an example ...What it is, is that to control the interests of the Global money controllers, 'regulations' are formed and stacked to control the markets, to protect the Bankster profiteers, and to control virtually EVERYTHING, while circumnavigating the laws of any given country. In other words, they lock everyone else out of the game they're playing! A common one is INSURANCE! 'Environmental' issues..(which have NOTHING to do with the 'environment',BTW...that rap is the one they use to 'sell it'.....however, the environment is important....just not why they 'regulate'.
If you're a 'liberal' you would be concerned about the environment, of course, but if you're a Global venture capitalist, you don't want anyone else developing the way YOU did(or even better)...hence, they merge regulations to insure that.....and always in their favor, not the people's!
Another stellar example, Kissinger, 1979 makes a deal with the Saudis, we buy their oil, they buy our Treasury notes and we agree not to drill here....but we are told by the Carter Administration that our domestic drilling was halted for environmental reasons. The 'liberals' think they have won an environmental issue...the 'conservatives' get pissed at the 'environmental wackos'..but it had NOTHING to do with environmentalists...but they take the rap for all the new 'regulations'....meanwhile hostilities grow between the 'conservatives' and the 'liberals' over it...the domestic oil companies are pissed and restricted....and blame the 'environmentalists'....but there is nothing they can do about it, because of the 'captive regulations'....enacted to protect the interests of the global bankers. When the time is of their choosing, those 'regulations' will be lifted...but not before the Mideast, is so disrupted, that 'we' HAVE to drill here...that way the treaty with the Mideast is broken, but it was pre-planned all along to rip them off, (for the advantage of the banksters)....America 'gets' to drill, the notes don't get paid back, because the 'agreement' was made to the former Saudi government. As I've said before, (for a couple of years) two governments have yet to be disrupted..Jordan and the Saudis...which we will see happen...when it happens, just remember that you heard it first here on Mudcat, of all places!!
"President Obama, on the other hand, has not been able to pass many or even most of his liberal desires, due to the very same people who allowed President Nixon to get away with it."
RIGHT!!!...but it's not who you think it is. It's not the 'conservatives', it's not the Republicans....the two parties are working together at the behest of the global banksters...who also own the media(s), and who also control the national dialogue. Not only can Obama NOT pass what YOU THINK are his 'liberal desires' he is also passing the desires of the banksters...under the guise of 'liberalism', just the same way the 'conservatives' are ALLOWED to pass (or not pass), their stated 'ideological agendas'.
Haven't you noticed that their positions 'change' once the 'other party' gains 'control(?) of the Administrations??? What they were AGAINST, their suddenly FOR, once the parties shift???
Listen to Obama's speeches BEFORE he was President, and compare them with his actions, once he was in office. No difference than the guy he replaced! Listen to him say how Bush's deficits were 'obscene' then run up multiples of it!...Listen to him jump on Bush for Bush's power grab for 'Executive Orders'...then go hog-wild, doing the same.
Forget that you voted for a 'black liberal' ......that's for appealing to the 'need for change'....when in fact, it's the same old shit!.......and speaking of payoffs, look at ALL the 'bailouts' and stimulus monies, and what do we have to show for it???? Every one of them was money thrown away!! Stimulus jobs??????...Where??....green energy grants??...everyone of them kaput!....Obamacare??...money for the insurance companies, INCLUDING bailout money for them...BUT NOT FOR THE PATIENTS.....and meanwhile the noose tightens for the common citizen.
What is there not to understand?? It's happening every day that we live...and yet STILL, the media has the public fooled that it is a Conservative/Liberal clash and tug of war!!
Want another simple example?....in Vietnam, the 'war' was prolonged to accommodate the heroin trade from the 'Golden Triangle', and the shipment of arms to the Shah of Iran....then the public turned against the war....(The Democrats co-opted the 'Peace Movement' while pandering to the drug use)....so we got out of Vietnam and went where?..Central America..which just so happened to be gushing with cocaine and pot, which just co-incidentally became a VERY lucrative enterprise, for the same people who ran the Vietnam operation....now, we're back to heroin.....which happens to be Afghanistan's biggest export....hmm..how'd that happen...another 'co-incidence'??
Colonel Oliver North testified before the House, (Iran/Contra hearings) that the lucrative drug business, is what won the economic war with the Soviets....it sure must have been a massive amounts of bread to pull that off!!!...and it is...and just like Reagan's Administration, this one is STILL supplying guns to the cartels, though they got a flimsy rap to 'justify it'......and the beat goes on!
Now to answer 'Guest's' question to me about what I meant by the 'so-called liberal agenda'......the truth is, there is none!..just like there is no 'conservative agenda'.....that's only for us peons to haggle over. did Bush 'restore dignity' to the White House??...Did we all get our 'Hope and Change'??
What we got, between the two of them(and not just limited to those two), is our national wealth drained....and our military being used as a mercenary force for the banksters....(under the guise of 'patriotism', of course)....and of course, perfectly well meaning people fighting with each other's alleged 'thinking'(as witnessed on here!)
the truth is, when the big banks compete, lot's of people die....and we don't even get the truth about that, either!!
G'Night..love ya'...write some wonderful music, that warms the heart, and brings to memory who we REALLY are!!
GfS