Musket, dear chap, of course according to your standards I am not worth arguing with - I don't agree with you. That is the same way you grade your sources of information - you discount anyone or anything that contradicts you.

By the way in time of war would you let us all in on how the conflict for command is resolved between their "duty of care" and the necessity of ordering men into harms way where everybody involved knows in all probability that there will be casualties? Rhetorical question Musket the answer to which is that the former ("Duty of care) doesn't exist. Any wise commander will protect and husband his forces in order to keep them intact as a fighting unit (As the BEF did in France in 1914)

Funny thing is the NHS is based entirely round a "duty of care" and yet it manages to kill and subject to risk what appears to be an ever increasing number of people in addition to those who might be reasonably expected to die due to their medical condition.

The NHS has no idea whatsoever how many Dr, Harold Shipman's there are or have been - Britain's most prolific murderer with at least 250 murders ascribed to him (He was charged and found guilty of only 15, it was two year investigation into his activities that uncovered the others) - The only Doctor ever convicted in Britain of killing his patients.

Cost overspends (Guys Hospital Phase III - what should have cost £29 million ended up costing £152 million)

The Hospitals are filthy super bugs abound.

As for "duty of care" explain QALY (A crude method of making life and death decisions) to us Musket

Scandals such as Alder Hey (Organs taken from dead children without consent), Bristol (Heart surgery), "Post Code Lottery" and the more recent Stafford (Increased incidence of mortality among those admitted as emergencies - get this for numbers involved - between 2005 and 2008 the estimated figures of between 400 and 1,200 more patients died than would have been expected - Musket those people would have been safer on foot patrol in Helmand). In the case of Stafford who has been called to account for it? Nobody, in fact they were promoted, for example "Cynthia Bower, who was from 2006 chief executive of NHS West Midlands, was recruited to run the Care Quality Commission quango."

Now speaking of this Quango - Care Quality Commission:

"The group charged in England and Wales with checking if the care delivered by the NHS is genuinely safe and fit for purpose is the Care Quality Commission, or CQC. Although the CQC describes itself as the "independent regulator of all health and social care services in England", it is in fact "accountable to the public, Parliament and the Secretary of State for Health." and much of its funding comes from the taxpayer. At least one chairman, one chief executive and a board member of the CQC have been singled out for attention by a UK Secretary of State for Health.

There is therefore the potential for a conflict of interest, as both the NHS and the CQC have the same leadership and both are highly susceptible to political interference."

Isn't that the crowd you worked for Musket? Wouldn't crow too much about it.