I'm not trying to argue here, but when something is borrowed or even stolen - as many pagans claim the date of Christmas and many Christmas traditions have been by the Christian church, how long before those traditions become "legitamate" in their new setting? it's been 1400 years more or less for the date. several hundred at least for the use of the Holly and the Ivy.And I will point out that Christian symbolism can explain all the phrases found in the lyrics of Holly and the Ivy"