Ake, You and Keith are among the most frustrating and pig headed people on this forum.

The people who call you names have tried logic and common sense on you. My impression is that you just like to argue and don't care about evidence or the health of the group you claim to be campaigning for.

My campaign was to get a few people to me more polite to me and to have reasoning conversations with me. And for people to stop cluttering up threads about things I wanted to talk about with silly pointless bickering.

I was hoping that if people stopped calling you names for a while you would have some room to be reasonable. But no. You just doubled down on the nonsense and made me look like a fool. So please do not try to defend me.