Quite right John, half the fun is in mooching around the garden centres (and we have 4 big ones nearby!) considering all the options. You learn a lot just reading the labels and looking at foliage, colour etc before you buy. We always find that the other customers are ready for a natter and share their knowledge. I'm also incurably nosy, and like to look at other people's gardens for tips and warnings. That's how I learned about the Dreaded Russian Vine! (It's also called Mile-A-Minute, so don't even consider it!) I could spend every waking minute looking at gardens and garden centres. It's just the weeding and pruning I can't manage, but my lovely husband is happy to help. Euonymous varieties are excellent; attractive, tough and good for windbreaks. Senecio is another good one.