"Do you believe that the British Government carried out a deliberate policy of genocide in Ireland between the years 1845 and 1851?"
"a simple YES or NO."
Do you still beat your wife - a simple yes or no will do fine?
Now you really are showing your prattish desperation.
I believe the policy adopted by the British Government gave rise to the outcome - one million plus deaths and mass emigration for generations to come.
Trevelyan - the instigator of Britain's policy, made it quite clear that he detested the Irish, that he believed the Famine to be divine retribution and that the consequences of the Famine would be in the interests of the British Empire.
Whether the British Government had thought through their policies of non-action to their logical conclusion remains a moot point - the fact that those policies wrought the holocaust that it did does not - that's what Britain did (or didn't do - that's what happened)
Why the **** are you asking me to repeat what I have already said several times - you are now sounding like another of Keith's moronic Daleks?
You refuse to respond to Britain's policy - fine, no answer is answer enough for me.
You have flipped and somersaulted around Trevelyan's attitude to the Irish - all a fake, just his opinion, nothing to do with British policy.
Trevelyan was Britain's mouthpiece on Irish policy, they appointed him, they honoured him for what he had done for Ireland - they were responsible for what happened in Ireland.
There is a logic behind the claim that what Britain did was deliberate - it suited Britain to have s subservient colony as a neighbour, but even if it was not a deliberate act of Genocide, it was an act of Genocide through malicious inaction - take your pick.
Not only do you still have to respond to the actual facts of British policy - you have yet to even mention the half century of evictions that consolidated what the Famine had done.
on't you dare suggest I have hidden behind cut-'n-pasted you distorting shit - most of those I have put up are taken from Keith's links - and eve if they are not, they beat your distorted and unqualified waffle hands down.
Now about that wife-beating - yes or no?
"Ireland had up until 1801 been self-governing, the fact that it was corrupt and inefficient through a mixture of indolence and ignorance was no fault of mainland Britain,"
There we go - Trevelyan writ large - thought you said I was making it all up - you'll be claiming that all Irishmen were simian-like braideads who have been brainwashed into hating Britain next - just like our learned-without ever reading a single work Keith; but there agai, he's already told us he is infallible
"Ah but Greg, her essay in History Today is online and we have discussed it in detail."
to lying - you obviously have not read it, let alone discussed it - very selective quoting is not discussion - neither is ignoring everything she wrote because it doesn't suit your anti-Irish racist agenda.
And has said everything you have not - callous indifference, failure to apportion blame, romanticism rather than finger-pointing....
It's all there, should you ever venture to read more than one paragraph at a time.
Jim Carroll