It's nice, Joe, to hear you agree that the position of creationists is ill-informed and irrational.

But the point about the views expressed by pete and Ake (etc) is that the views themselves can not be treated with respect in the modern world. They are based on ignorance and hatred.

Remember the words of the distinguished and respected English statesman, Nye Bevan. "No attempt at ethical or social seduction can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party... So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." Hatred has its place, and the same applies to bigots and wilful fools.