i'm not sure it bears too much inspection. we are what we are. i'm more okay with gays than my dad, who was acop and spent part of his life as a cop stalking cottagers in the 40's, and 1950's.

but I grew up with the dictum that homosexuality was revolting. and lets face - some of us reject out parents values - and some of us don't.

we have lived through a society that has profoundly changed. just as we have grown more tolerant we have admitted to our society religions and lifestyles that are very different. on paper as a matter of public record they are intolerant of sexual diversity - but they come from parts of the world that aren't policed as thoroughly as England, and attitudes were de facto more tolerant than ours.

obviously we're not just talking about muslim societies, but also catholic countries - where presumably at some level they were comfortable with what their 'celibate' clergy were getting up to .

I have a feeling that we will sort all this out. in the meantime I can't blame gays for being vigilant of their rights and intolerant of people too mentally lazy - or incapable of sloughing off the crap attitudes that their parents and culture have bequeathed to them.