I can't work out whether those who use Mudcat as an outlet for their bigotry or those who stand up to them are responsible for property prices in the city centre here?

Were there no people dismissing whole sections of society in their funny creative thoughtful way, or were there no people stopping them?

Some of the people you mention who have drifted are on record for being rather outspoken against intolerance and hate inspired philosophy.

Yes, I am sure Mudcat can be fun. It is! Plenty of threads both sides of the line are fun. Many are thoughtful. Sure, the odd bar fight spills over into the street where people are congregating, but wallowing in nostalgia isn't the way to address it. Moderation is, but whatever the rights and wrongs, there have been far too many examples of odious crap remaining whilst people who challenge it get their challenges removed.

I mean, one fool has just stated that he knows of no homophobia or racism on these threads yet consistently supports the bigots spewing it and feeds them erroneous information to spur them on! Notwithstanding his own links to a UK based far right group that opposes gay marriage and multiculturalism.