It's fascinating how peckerheaded folks can get. This thread is a classic example. It starts off on one topic and tehn the Usual Suspects move in like a cluster of razor-toothed fish on a river pig, sawing and nibbling with complete focus, not to say compulsion and obsession, apparently unaware of the illogical dingery in which they are thrashing.,

There is a ratio between signal and noise that has to be maintained for a sense of continuity and a minimum level of harmony to occur in a discussion.   Blind quibbles get tedious, blind quibbling is boring, and blind quibblers wear on the patience.

That said, my opinion on the issue of ISlam or any other "ism", cult, religion, faith or body of belief is that the insanity is always individual and the fanaticism is always a personal madness. It simply doesn't fly to tar wide swaths of humanity with the same brush. The faith is usually an excuse for the dramatization of individual mental illness to leak out. Absent the individual mental illness, the faith doesn't instill fanaticism.