Sheesh. Apart from the fact that I appear to have been accused of calling Jim names (check your facts, please, Al), this thread has been disingenuously steered into straw-man territory. I don't want anyone to be censored (though incitement to hatred laws should be obeyed: there is a limit to free speech). But I don't want to be continually shouted down for railing ardently against bigots by people who are at best indulgent with and at worst silent about said bigots. The only way to confront bigotry is to confront it. That might include telling the bigot why he's a bigot and ridiculing him in the open if he fails to recant. And don't tell me I'm doing judge and jury as to who's a bigot. They are ludicrously easy to spot, but, unfortunately, just as easy to be in denial about, it seems.